i'm sure that the agm is in october but has a date for it been released?.
Hi Blondie, even the Bible doesn't say October. It was the 2nd month, Ziv, which corresponds to April/May time. See Gen 7:11 and compare to 1 Ki 6:1.
But you easily change 2 into 8 by changing the calendar :) So suddendly Ziv becomes Tishrei. Which is exactly what they do in order to say the 2nd month is October.
to the be read from the podium 2 weeks after the initial proposal, command from gb/branch :.
we the central hall*** congregation resolve, in the forced sale, that the hall at no.
1 first avenue *** be bought back from wtbt corp inc. and continue to be used by the current members.
Sir82, you also need to go to a Kingdom Hall and give a talk. People don't just go to listen and be convinced, some go to enjoy a priviledged position and enjoy minor celebrity status. For this you need a Kingdom Hall.
I ask you to spare a thought for the poor elder who went to the Kingdom Hall to give his talk only to find he couldn't find the Hall. Why? Because it had been sold and knocked down.
Also, if you are going to cast Christians out of the synagogues, you need a synagogue.
all about teaching the bible and about god.
what about preaching the gospel of jesus?
there's only about a dozen scriptures that say christians are to bear witness about the christ that they ignore.
Nicely put Finkelstein.
iam informed of a public anti-shunning demo coming up in melbourne,australia.. more info as i get it..
I was shunned four times yesterday. Once even by a special pioneer. I stood right in front of her and waited to see what she would do. And the only reason she refuses to speak to me is because I say that Dan 1:1 is talking about the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership. Not the 11th year of his rulership.
Oh and also the fact that the Co-ordinator of the Body of Elders used the platform to say that the special pioneer's trolley-mate's husband said I was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Once the CoBE got off the platform he said he had nothing to do with making that decision but just had to go along with it.
a couple of highlights from recent "congregation bible studies" (book studies):.
in one chapter of the jesus book, they spin the part that disproves the "earthly hope" into saying the exact opposite of what is obvious:.
“most truly i say to you, i am the door for the sheep.
I think they know exactly what they are saying. They are saying the faithful get disfellowshipped and they know it because that is what they are doing. Just look what happened to Ray Franz, let alone ones like myself and plenty of others.
They are also saying if you are a coward like the parents, shut up or else you get'll get chucked out. The Word of God is a double edged sword getting to the truth. The Watchtower is a double-barrel economic, psycho-sociological mind-trap threatening you to shut up and go along with a pack of lies. Abandon your intellect and integrity or else.
since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?
i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.
i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.
Chook, I think the prayer is suppose to go along the lines of, 'forgive them Lord they know not what they do.'
since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?
i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.
i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.
It is perfectly reasonable to pray for the individual members of the GB. If you do talks, why not include this encouraging point in your material. You may get a surprising reaction.
(Matthew 5:44-45) However, I say to YOU: Continue to love YOUR enemies and to pray for those persecuting YOU; that YOU may prove yourselves sons of YOUR Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous
the worst form of punishment for any major crime on the planet is death.. however, the second option of imprisonment is way more powerful and popular all over the world.
the most powerful form of imprisonment is called solitary confinement.
by shunning people this is what you inflict on your loved ones who no longer want to be the same religion as you, .
Jesus ate with sinners. In doing so he was not condoning their harmful ways but seeking to educate them. It was the Pharisees who criticised him and he even tried to help them too.
Although Jesus was attacked, he wasn't lonely. Loving, kind and merciful people who wanted to know about the God of Abraham were drawn to him. Jesus explained that if he was treated badly by apostates it'd be the same for anyone else acting in a genuine Christian manner. Speaking from experience, the shunning policy of the apostates (WTBS) fails. Big time. They are the losers if they want to get rid of those who care about them.
If you are stuck down a collapsed mine-shaft, you don't fire guns at the rescue workers who have come to get you out.
were you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
Hi Phizzy - when I realised there was a serious doctrinal issue I had to deal with, I felt that anyone born-in had little, if any chance to see through the abhorrent deception. I felt that anyone subjected to the mind-control of this corporate monster could not be blamed for the things they did wrong. It wasn't their fault, they were not only being lied to but deceived in a dreadful way. They couldn't help being deceived, what was/is done to them is like a conjuring trick using words but it affects your mind and understanding. It fogs your brain.
Maybe some have knowingly prostituted their intellect or are cowards. Maybe some really should have known better. If so, I only hope they'll become ashamed of what they have done to their fellow Man.
were you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
I joined, not on the basis that it was the truth, but on the basis that as a group of Christian people, this was the best group going at the time.
In my study (1991-92) I noticed things which I felt were wrong and I spoke to elders and my study conductress. The things I noticed were not deal breakers, just grey areas. I was told that if the GB had got anything wrong they would correct it. They were not like the Pope who claimed infallibility. They were not like higher critics who attacked/changed the message in the Bible. So I was lied to. It took some time for me to realise that I was being lied to and that GB would not change their 1914 doctrine as it was the base of their power.
Even down to the very end, before I called them out as standing in opposition to Jehovah's Witnesses, such as Daniel, Ezekiel and Jeremiah, I gave them the chance to correct matters but both GB and local elders were unwilling.
